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* DRAGON QUEST VIII *
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* JOURNEY OF THE CURSED KING *
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* FAQ: *
* UNDERSTANDING ALCHEMY *
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* FAQ: Copyright by KATZNKITZ *
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* Work Completed: Nov 30th, 2006 *
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0-0. PRELIMINARY INFORMATION
0-0.A. COPYRIGHT MATTERS
0-0.B. ABOUT THIS FAQ
1-0. GENERAL ALCHEMICAL INFORMATION
1-0.A. Using the Alchemy Pot.
1-0.B. Recipe Is Done.
1-0.C. Visible Stages to Completion.
1-0.D. Limitations for Making Items.
1-0.E. Time to Complete a Recipe.
1-0.F. The Item Bag.
1-1. INGREDIENT OR NOT?
1-1.A. Items Intended to be sold.
1-1.B. Items you MAY OR MAY NOT want to sell.
1-1.C. Items Never Used in Recipes (SELL?).
1-2. FINDING RECIPES & SPECIAL ITEMS.
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+ 0-0.A. COPYRIGHT MATTERS +
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Dragon Quest VIII RPG including all characters, items, and story line is copyright by SquareEnix. This FAQ, copyright by Kay Allan (katznkitz), is based on that story and is intended to give hints and suggestion for playing the game.
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+ 0-0.B. ABOUT THIS FAQ +
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~ This FAQ is covers:
+ All you need to know about the basics of Alchemy as used in Dragon Quest VIII.
+ Included are lists of items that CANNOT be used as ingredients in the Alchemy
Pot.
- When these items are no longer useful, they can be sold.
~ IT DOES NOT INCLUDE RECIPES.
+ For those see the FAQ: ALCHEMY RECIPES.
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+ 1-0. GENERAL ALCHEMICAL INFORMATION +
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~ THE ALCHEMY POT:
+ A magical pot that allows you to put items, called INGREDIENTS, together to
make something else.
- Not all items may be used as ingredients.
- Not all items made are better than the ingredients used!!!
+ Consider the Alchemy Pot to be a magical cooking pot.
- That's why the method for making a particular item is calles a RECIPE.
~ History of DQ-8's ALCHEMY POT:
+ King Trode rescues an old, beat-up pot when Hero's party flees from Trodain
Castle.
- He spends a number of nights repairing the pot.
* At first it has only two slots for ingredients.
- Later, he works on it some more to make a third slot.
* Much better items can be made when you have three slots for ingredients.
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+ 1-0.A. USING THE ALCHEMY POT +
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~ The alchemy pot becomes available after you exit from PEREGRIN QUAY.
+ This is the port before you can go to MAELLA ABBEY.
+ It can be accessed through the 'MISC' Menu.
- And the sub-menu "ALCHEMY POT".
+ Ingredients can be chosen from any of the character's personal inventory OR
from the ITEM BAG.
- Any item that is "shadowed" (dark instead of bright) CANNOT be used as an
ingredient.
+ If you change your mind about what you want to make:
AFTER you have started the pot going...
AND...
BEFORE the item is completed...
- The ingredients will be returned to Hero's inventory or where they came from.
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+ 1-0.B. RECIPE IS DONE +
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~ YOU HAVE TO KEEP YOUR EARS ALERT:
+ When an item has been completed, the pot chimes.
- It is not always easy to hear the chime.
- Since it is wise to keep the pot working, you need to listen as you travel.
* The chime should be heard no matter where you are.
> While you hear the Chime when in a dungeon, with one exception, you
cannot check the pot until you exit the dungeon.
> The exception is Castle Trodain (perhaps because it is Trode's home?).
+ If you think the item ought to be finished 'by now', you can check:
- If it isn't finished, Trode will tell you so.
* You can then choose to discontinue (YES) in which case the ingredients
will be returned to the item bag.
* Or you can chose to continue (NO) and back out of the Alchemy Pot screen.
> Checking does NOT affect the time of making the item.
+ You find recipes along the journey, usually by reading BOOKS:
- Some of the recipes are not complete,
- Others you don't yet have the ingredients for:
+ You can check all OR any recipe in the Misc. Menu and under BATTLE RECORDS.
- The recipes are on slips of parchment paper.
- Between the parchment slips you can see the Alchemy Pot and what stage
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+ 1-0.C. VISIBLE STAGES TO COMPLETION +
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~ THERE ARE THREE STAGES IN MAKING AN ITEM:
+ When ingredients are first placed in the Alchemy Pot:
- The pot shakes to make sure the ingredients really will make something.
* If they won't, the Pot blows its top and sends the ingredients back.
- If it will make something, then the Pot settles down to SIMMER:
* It quivers and only small puffs of steam escapes.
- After a while the Pot starts to BOIL:
* Small clouds of steam escape the pot and it starts to shake.
- When the item is finished, the Pot comes to a full ROLLING BOIL.
* Large clouds of steam escape.
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+ 1-0.D. LIMITATION FOR MAKING ITEMS +
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1. You cannot make any item unless you have the proper ingredients.
- That means many items cannot be made until later in the game.
- The various WALKTHROUGHS written by KATZNKITZ introduce the recipes when you
are likely to have obtained the proper ingredients.
2. You cannot know when an item is created unless you hear the CHIME.
- That means you must listen for the Chime.
* But sometimes you miss hearing it.
* So check periodically to see if the Alchemy Pot has done its thing.
- The chime will sound no matter where you are.
* But you cannot access the Alchemy Pot while in a dungeon.
* If you are in a dungeon when the Chime sounds:
> You can continue through the dungeon...
OR...
> Exit the dungeon (using EVAC) so you can put new ingredients in the pot.
* If you exit the dungeon:
> You have an opportunity to HEAL at an Inn.
> You'll also be able to SAVE.
> You will have to start from the beginning of the dungeon (but you
don't have to explore where you've already been).
3. At first, you are limited to two-ingredient items.
- Later, after Trode alters it so the Alchemy Pot has three slots, you can
make either 2- or 3-ingredient items.
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+ 1-0.E. TIME TO COMPLETE A RECIPE +
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~ AS A GENERAL RULE:
+ The first time a particular item is made, it tends to take a little longer
than the second time.
+ Items with three ingredients take a little more time to make than the
2-ingredient items.
- But if they save a whole step in the process, total time is less.
- Example: Rose Root has two recipes, one for the two-slots and one for the
three.
* When there are only two slots, there are two steps to making a recipe,
for example, Rose Root:
> First make the Strong Medicine using 2x Medicinal Herbs.
> Second step, use the strong medicine to make the Rose Root:
1x Strong Medicine + 1x Medicinal Herb
* When there are 3 slots:
> There is no need to make a strong medicine first.
> Recipe is: 3x Medicinal Herbs
+ Not all recipes' time can be shortened in this way.
- For example:
* Cheiron's Bow = Eros Bow + Power Shield.
* Eros' Bow = Hunter's Bow + Garter.
* You might think you could just put the ingredients for the Eros Bow
(Hunter's Bow + Garter) with the Power Shield in the Alchemy Pot.
- DOESN'T WORK.
- You MUST make the Eros' Bow BEFORE trying to make Cheiron's Bow.
~ Whenever the Alchemy Pot is idle (most likely at the early part of the game):
+ Whenever you don't have a specific item to make...
- Use the time to keep the pot busy, by making:
* Stronger Healing, Special, & Antidotal items.
* Cheeses for Munchie.
- See the FAQ: ALCHEMY RECIPES for recipes for these types of items.
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+ 1-0.F. THE ITEM BAG +
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~ The Item Bag has an unending capacity to hold different items.
+ It holds anything and everything.
~ When searching for an ingredient for the Alchemy Pot:
+ If an item can NOT be used in a recipe:
- Its ICON shows as darkened or shadowed.
NOTE: Any item that is currently equipped on any character is ALWAYS darkened.
~ Items in the BAG can be sorted in two ways:
+ By type:
- This means that all weapons are together, as is armour, etc.
+ Alphabetically.
- This is helpful if you cannot find a particular ingredient:
* You know its name.
* You are pretty sure you have at least one.
- For example:
* Suppose you need a jar of SAINT'S ASHES.
* Sort alphabetically.
* Then go through the list looking for the item among those beginning with
the letter 'S'.
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~ some items are not ingredients...
+ While there are many items that CAN be used:
- If an item CANNOT be used in a recipe:
* Its ICON shows as darkened.
- If it CAN be used, the ICON is clear.
- Some items are NEVER used as an ingredient.
* Shadowed items in anyone's personal inventory include equipped items.
> When they are no longer equipped, it may be possible to use the items
as ingredients.
- Some items can be used BUT....
* They may be items you cannot buy and/or are rarely found.
> For example, several recipes call for a Gold Nugget.
> You can only find three (3) in the game.
> IF you are lucky, you may get one when you defeat a DEMOCROBOT (#221
in the monster list).
= This is the combination of four critters similar to the JABBERWOCKEE
which is a combining of JAB, BER, KEE, & WOC)).
= But I haven't met one yet, so I don't know where they can be found.
> Because of the rarity, the recipe is usually too expensive.
= So you have to be careful what you choose to make.
- Sometime rare items can be bought in later towns.
* For example, Magic Water is rare until you get to Tryan Gully.
* So you must wait until later in the game to use them.
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+ 1-1.A. ITEMS INTENDED TO BE SOLD +
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~ These items are obtained when you fight the Notorious Monsters.
+ You can see the monsters prowling about in certain specific locations.
- You may, at a certain point in the game, recruit some of these monsters for
Monster Arena Battles.
+ Whether you recruit them or not, the first time you fight them, they will drop
a treasure chest containing a Monster Coin.
* The Coins are intended to be sold.
+ Depending on the monster, one of three types of coins will be dropped:
ITEM'S NAME | EFFECT | SELL
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Copper Monster Coin | NONE | 200
Silver Monster Coin | NONE | 500
Gold Monster Coin | NONE | 1,000
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+ 1-1.D. ITEMS YOU MAY OR MAY NOT WANT TO SELL +
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~ WEAPONS:
+ These items are useful in battle.
- The term: "If used in battle" means use the weapon as an ITEM when it is
the person's turn.
* For example, the Staff of Resurrection may be used to restore a fallen
person.
- otherwise it is wielded as a weapon.
+ However, weapons can bring in a lot of money.
- In the chart below, hese items are ordered by the amount you can get if
you sell.
- Some can be made so, IF (YES, IF) you have the ingredients, you could make
one to use and one to sell.
- IT'S YOUR CHOICE!
WEAPONS'S NAME | EFFECT | SELL | BUY | MAKE|RECIPE| WHOSE?
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Uber Miracle Sword |Restore some HP | 1,500 | --- | YES | --- |
Shamshir of Light |Highest power Rapier | 9,000 | --- | YES | --- | Angelo
Demon Spear |instant kill sometimes| 12,500 | --- | YES | --- |
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Heavy Hatchet |Highest power Scythe | 15,000 |29,000 | --- | --- | Yangus
Hero Spear | +HP if used in battle| 15,000 | --- | --- | --- |
Staff of Resurrection|ZING if used in battle| 22,500 |45,000 | YES | --- |Jessica, | | | | | |& Angelo
Uber Falcon Blade |Hit twice in one turn | 25,000 | --- | YES | --- |
Metal Wing Boomerang|Highest power weapon | 36,000 | --- | YES | --- | Hero
Odin's Bow |Highest power Bow | 48,000 | --- | YES | --- | Angelo
Megaton Hammer |Highest power hammer | 55,500 | --- | YES | --- | Yangus
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DEFENSIVE ITEMS | EFFECT | SELL | BUY | MAKE|RECIPE| WHOSE?
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Elevating Shoes | +5 Agility, +EXP ## | 50 | --- | YES | $$$ | ALL
Goddess Shield |Second highest shield | 1,250 | 2,500 | YES | $$$ |Jessica
| | | | | |& Angelo
Metal King Armour |Highest defense | 5,000 | --- | YES | --- | ALL
Ice Shield |Use - reduce ice damge| 4,300 | 8,500 | YES | --- |Hero
| | | | | |& Angelo
Dragon Robe |Highest defense Armour| 7,500 | --- | --- | --- |Jessica
| | | | | |& Angelo
Metal King Helm |Highest defense | 10,000 | --- | --- | --- | ALL
Catholicon Ring | +15 Defense | 18,000 | --- | YES | --- | ALL
Goddess Ring | +20 Wisdom, +MP ## | 25,000 | --- | YES | --- | ALL
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OTHER ITEMS | EFFECT | SELL | BUY | MAKE|RECIPE| WHOSE?
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Elfin Elixir | Restore all MP | 410 | --- | YES | --- | ONE
Sage's Stone(Battle)| Use, +100 HP (++) | 20,000 | --- | YES | --- | ALL
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Marks in the charts above:
## = While equipped and walking in field or dungeon.
(++) = When used as item in battle (to use, it must be in person's personal
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+ 1-1.C. ITEMS NEVER USED IN RECIPES (SELL?) +
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~ SOME ITEMS ARE NEVER USED IN RECIPES SO YOU MAY WANT TO SELL THEM!
+ These are items that are useful.
- But are replaced by better equipment through the game.
- Under: WHO CAN USE IT:
* "Jessica+" means after her Knife skills = 30 skill points or more.
+ They are listed in order of attack or defensive strength.
- Generally that means an order similar to when you can acquire the item.
~ SOME ITEMS MAY BE USED IN A RECIPE BUT it isn't worth the cost (shown by $$$)
~ If you cannot make something (or it's too expensive) these weapons should be
sold AFTER you have found better weapons.
+ Recipes for the items that can be made are included in another FAQ:
ALCHEMY RECIPES.
~ SOME ITEMS, SUCH AS, JESSICA'S OUTFIT OR ANGELO'S TEMPLAR UNIFORM MAY BE SOLD.
+ HOWEVER:
- The shopkeeper will ALWAYS warn you that you may never see these items
again.
- You'll have to decide whether you'll keep them or not.
+ The items in the charts below are ordered by the level of attack (ATTK)
OR by the level of Defense (DEF).
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WEAPONS'S NAME | ATTK | SELL | COST | MAKE|RECIPE| WHO CAN EQUIP IT?
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Oaken Club | 7 | 55 | 110 | --- | --- | Yangus
Soldiers Sword | 8 | 75 | -- | --- | --- | Hero
Stone Sword | 12 | -- | -- | --- | --- | Hero, Jessica+
Copper Sword | 13 | 135 | 270 | YES | --- | Hero, Jessica+
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Thorn Whip | 14 | 175 | 350 | --- | --- | Jessica
Rapier | 17 | 150 | 130 | --- | --- | Angelo
Lightning Staff | 24 | 2,300 | --- | --- | --- | Jessica, Angelo
Magma Staff (BANG) | 28 | 2,500 | --- | YES | --- | Jessica, Angelo
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Reinforced Boomerang | 32 | 840 | --- | YES | --- | Hero
Sledgehammer | 33 | 1,000 | 1,700 | $$$ | --- | Yangus
Falcon Knife | 34 | 4,400 | 7,700 | YES | --- | Jessica
Steel Broadsword | 35 | 1,000 | 2,000 | --- | --- | Hero, Jessica+
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Staff of Divine Wrath | 35 | 3,500 | --- | --- | --- | Jessica, Angelo
Holy Lance | 39 | 1,350 | 2,700 | YES | --- | Hero
Platinum Sword | 40 | 3,000 | --- | --- | --- | all except Yangus
Staff of Antimagic | 41 | 3,000 | --- | YES | --- | Jessica, Angelo
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Dragontail Whip | 47 | 7,400 | --- | YES | --- | Jessica
Imp Knife | 52 | 2,250 | --- | YES | --- | Jessica
Sword Breaker | 56 | 2,750 | 5,500 | --- | --- | Jessica
Spiked Steel Whip | 62 | 4,300 | 8,300 | --- | --- | Jessica
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Zombie Slayer | 65 | 10,000 | --- | YES | --- | Hero, Jessica+
Hell Scythe | 65 | 5,000 | 9,500 | YES | --- | Yangus
Uber Double-edge | 76 | 3,750 | --- | YES | $$$ | Hero, Jessica+
Mercury's Rapier | 78 | 5,100 | 10,500 | YES | --- | Angelo
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King Axe | 80 | 8,500 | 17,000 | YES | --- | Yangus
Dragon Slayer | 83 | 22,500 | --- | YES | --- | Hero, Jessica+
Bardiche of Binding | 83 | 12,000 | --- | --- | --- | Yangus
Blizzard Blade | 90 | 10,500 | 21,000 | YES | --- | Hero, Jessica+
Hell Sabre | 99 | 7,300 | --- | --- | --- | Angelo
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DEFENSIVE ITEMS:
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SHIELD'S NAME | DEF | SELL | COST | MAKE|RECIPE| WHOSE?
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Pot Lid | 3 | 20 | 40 | --- | --- | Yangus, Jessica
Kitty Shield | 10 | 185 | 370 | --- | --- | Jessica, Angelo
Templar's Shield | 14 | 875 | --- | YES | $$$ | Angelo
Bone Shield | 36 | 8750 | --- | --- | --- | Yangus
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Turtle Shell | 37 | 1,100 | 2,300 | --- | --- | Yangus
Saintess Shield | 46 | 16,000 | --- | YES | --- | Jessica
Silver Shield | 48 | 16,000 | --- | YES | --- |all except Jessica
Big Boss Shield | 50 | 12,000 | --- | --- | --- | Yangus
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HELMETS'S NAME | DEF | SELL | COST | MAKE|RECIPE| WHOSE?
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Turban | 8 | 205 | 410 | YES | --- | Hero, Yangus
Bunny Ears | 14 | 450 | --- | YES | --- | Jessica
Fur Hood | 18 | 700 | 1,400 | YES | --- | Hero, Yangus
Bronze Helmet | 20 | 825 | --- | YES | --- | Hero, Angelo
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Iron Mask | 25 | 1,750 | 3,500 | --- | --- | Hero, Yangus
Platinum Headgear | 30 | 2,050 | --- | --- | --- | Hero, Angelo
Raging Bull Helm | 42 | 16.500 | --- | YES | --- | Hero, Yangus
Golden Tiara | 43 | 26,000 | --- | YES | --- | Jessica
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Great Helm | 45 | 8,000 | 16,000 | --- | --- | Hero, Yangus
Phantom Mask | 48 | 29,000 | --- | YES | --- | Angelo
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BODY ARMOUR'S NAME | DEF | SELL | COST | MAKE|RECIPE| WHOSE?
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Jessica's Outfit | 3 | 60 | --- | --- | --- | Jessica
Silk Robe | 10 | 210 | 420 | --- | --- | Jessica, Angelo
Leather Dress | 15 | 190 | 380 | $$$ | --- | Jessica
Scale Armour | 17 | 175 | 350 | YES | --- | Hero, Angelo
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Bronze Armour | 24 | 420 | 840 | YES | --- | Hero
Iron Armour | 32 | 900 | 1,800 | --- | --- | Hero, Yangus
Robe of Serenity | 34 | 3,600 | --- | YES | --- | Jessica
Bunny Suit | 38 | 1,775 | --- | $$$ | --- | Jessica
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Silver Cuirass | 44 | 1,600 | 3,200 | YES | --- | Yangus
Silk Bustier | 44 | 2,750 | 5,500 | --- | $$$ | Jessica
Posh Waistcoat | 48 | 3,250 | --- | --- | --- | Angelo
Magic Bikini | 50 | 6,900 | 13,800 | --- | --- | Jessica
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Dancer's Mail | 57 | 5,200 | --- | YES | --- | Angelo
Flowing Dress | 59 | 7,400 | 14,800 | --- | $$$ | Jessica
Velvet Cape | 60 | 5,300 | 9,400 | --- | --- | Angelo
Dragon Mail | 60 | 6,000 | 12,000 | YES | --- | Hero, Yangus
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Spiked Armour | 68 | 9,500 | --- | YES | --- | Hero, Yangus
Crimson Robe | 82 | 11,250 | --- | YES | --- | Jessica Angelo
Sacred Armour | 84 | 7,750 | --- | --- | --- | Hero, Angelo
Mirror Armour | 92 | 15,000 | 21,000 | YES | --- | Hero, Angelo
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Princess's Robe | 94 | 36,000 | --- | YES | --- | Jessica
Gigant Armour | 95 | 9,000 | 18,000 | YES | --- | Yangus
Dragon Robe | 103 | 7,500 | --- | --- | --- | Jessica, Angelo
Divine Bustier | 105 | 37,000 | --- | YES | --- | Jessica
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+ 1-2.C. FINDING SPECIAL RECIPES & SPECIAL ITEMS +
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+ Most recipes are found in books on the various bookshelves.
- Not all recipes are complete.
* Hints are given for the incomplete recipe ingredients.
+ Certain other recipe can be found:
- By talking to the man who sells armor in Farebury periodically through the
game.
- The final recipe he'll tell you about is found in the lower 'elevator'
room to the High Priest's residence at Savella Cathedral.
ITEM'S NAME | WHERE TO FIND?
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THIEF'S KEY RECIPE | Find in Farebury Church Tower (at night)
EROS BOW RECIPE | Find in Pickham
IMP KNIFE RECIPE | Garden of Trodain Castle
??? | Lower Elevator Room, Savella Castle
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Morrie's Memo #1 | Morrie's Place (Task from Morrie)
Morrie's Memo #2 | Morrie's Place (Task from Morrie)
Morrie's Memo #3 | Morrie's Place (Task from Morrie)
Monster Arena Key | Monster Arena (Access Monster Battles)
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Kran Spinels | Top floor of Alexandria Tower
Seven Orbs | Look in places where a sage died
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OTHER DQ-8 FAQs:
+ VALUABLE EARLY SKILLS-ATTRIBUTES.
+ USE OF DQ8 SKILL POINTS.
+ ALCHEMY RECIPES.
+ LOCATIONS OF ITEMS YOU CAN BUY.
+ LOCATIONS OF MINI MEDALS (Part 1).
All are on cheatcodes.com
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